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| Rutherford closer to cutting police officers |

By Susan C. Moeller Senior Reporter
RUTHERFORD (July 30, 2009, 10 a.m.) — The Rutherford Police Department is being scrutinized by the borough council for possible budget cuts. All of the officers were notified that their jobs would be discussed at a special meeting Wednesday, July 29. That meeting was canceled.
As it stands, borough code requires that the police department be staffed with 43 officers. It also delineates how many of those officers should hold specific ranks. But, Councilman John Genovesi introduced an ordinance Tuesday, July 28, that would eliminate the minimum officer requirement for the department as a whole and the higher ranks individually. Instead, the composition of the police department would be composed of “officers as shall be deemed necessary from time to time by the mayor and council,” according to the proposal. Finances are driving the decision. The size of each department, including police, must be based on the residents’ ability to pay, Genovesi said in a phone interview. “I feel that I have to take a hard line approach … because these are hard line kinds of times,” Genovesi continued. “We have to afford ourselves the ability to change force size and strength … based on our ability to support that force size and strength.” Genovesi’s bottom line: the residents of Rutherford can’t afford the police department as it is currently configured. Mayor John Hipp agrees. The borough has structural problems with its budget and continual tax increases “cannot be the solution.” The employees themselves refused another cost saving measure — contributions to their health care, Hipp noted. The rest of the council is not unanimously behind Genovesi. President Maura Keyes is opposed to lowering the number of officers who patrol Rutherford. “Crime doesn’t usually decrease over time,” she said. But, Hipp rejects Keyes’ assertion. “I’m not accepting the gloom and doom argument that if you touch the police department, we are all going to die,” Hipp said. Changing the ordinance is irrelevant, according to Police Capt. Joseph Merli. “They don’t adhere to it no matter what the number is,” Merli said. The police department has been operating with 41 officers for more than a year. As the shifts are configured now, six officers, with one at the desk, handle all of the calls to the Rutherford Police Department during the day and night shifts. Eight officers typically cover the busier 3 p.m. to 11 p.m. window — equivalent to one patrol officer for every 2,200 people during the toughest law enforcement period of the day. An additional five officers fill out the detective bureau; three officers have special duties (traffic, schools and administration); and two captains and the police director are at the helm of the department. With less manpower, the department would incur higher overtime expenses, Merli said. “The idea was that we needed at least 43 people to keep the place running efficiently,” he said of the current ordinance. Going even further below that number would have an “adverse effect.” Merli also accused the council of having insufficient knowledge of the department to make effective decisions. Some of the calls handled by the officers, such as domestic violence or incidents with emotionally disturbed people, can be very time consuming, Merli noted. “Do they really know how to run a police department?” Merli asked of the council. Police director
Also up for discussion by the council is the vacation time allotted to the borough’s civilian police director, John Thompson. Hipp explained at the July 21 council meeting that the borough had neglected to spell out a vacation policy for the police director when the position was created in 2008. Lacking a specific clause in the ordinance, Hipp said, “We had to give him something.” Thus, Thompson “got the 20 days because that’s the minimum allowed,” Hipp said after the meeting, with reference to other vacation days allowed other employees in the department. Keyes objected. If the ordinance doesn’t spell out time off, then employees don’t have it, she said after the meeting. If Thompson took vacation time he doesn’t technically have, a corresponding amount of money could be deducted from his pay, Keyes suggested. Regardless of Thompson’s time off last year, Hipp would like to see the police director’s vacation days set higher — at 34. Merli was surprised. “Who gets an increase of 14 vacation days in one year?” he asked.
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Cops (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, August 03 @ 19:07:06 UTC | These posts confirm several realities:
* Most people thinks cops are overpaid and underworked
* Most people believe cops have little to do with the crime rate
* Most cops lack the personality and people skills to build community support
* Cops believe they should get raises no matter how much taxes increase
* Most cops don't have a college degree
* Most cops got the job because they knew someone
* Most cops could never, ever make this kind of money in any other mode of employment
* Cops have little community support when it comes to the excessive compensation they receive |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, August 03 @ 22:57:39 UTC | | Be careful using words like "most" "always" or "never" - rarely are those words true, they 're often exaggarations and take away from any possible credibility or believabilty with whatever points you are trying to make. Case in point is here. The few people who post here certainly do not equal "most people" and the members of the RPD are certainly not "most cops." If you must, keep to your opinion and don't try to pull BS out of the air and flaunt it as facts or as you said here, "realities." It just sounds stupid. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 03:23:52 UTC | What sounds "stupid" is the way you have completely convinced yourself of your importance. You sound stupid because you should realize, talk to the average resident, and sorry we do agree with those points.
Wake up call. The townspeople have your number. now some people are stepping out and calling you on it. It's not like we who live in town didn't already know what you make $$$ and what you do for that $$$. Again, wake up call. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 14:40:12 UTC | | It always amazes me when ignorant people throw around information that is not factual but they act as if it is. I guess it makes unintelligent people feel smart - and typically as the person did here, he/she resorted to name-calling. Convinced myself of my own importance? Again, the person is making assumptions about things they have no idea about. Just as you can't possibly, without having done tons of research, know what "most" people, cops, whatever think, you have no idea what I think either. And I'm certain you did not poll a majority percentage of our residents to glean what "most" residents or what the "average" resident thinks. Either be intelligent and thorough enough to back up your statements with facts or be confident and articulate enough to present your thoughts as your own opinion. Your ignorance is annoying. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 19:44:02 UTC | | Well-said! |
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Please point out on that list what isn't true? (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 05 @ 19:16:20 UTC | What's on the list that isn't believable?
You see, cops only talk to cops. They don't have friends outside the "brotherhood" becuase most people disagree with them on most issues.
They're in this shell which they believe the public loves them and they're all "heroes" like white knights on a horse... |
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Correct (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 12:04:30 UTC | all points are totally correct, unless of course you ask a cop or members of their family!
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Funny how no one has disputed that list (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 05 @ 19:13:03 UTC | Cops are overpaid.
Most of them don't live in town.
Most of them have a bad atitiude.
Most of them think they deserve a raise.
A good number of them don't have a college degree.
What part of any of these assumptions isn't the truth?
Tell you what, put a question on the ballot asking if the town should layoff cops and it will win by a landslide.
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Re: CopsFunny how no one has disputed that list (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 12 @ 13:41:54 UTC | CopsFunny how no one has disputed that list (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 05 @ 19:13:03 UTC
Cops are overpaid. (That's a matter of opinion. Their salaries are based on several factors, mostly a comparison of the salaries of other police department and the ability of the town to pay which has always been taken into account)
Most of them don't live in town. (Nice try. Of the 40 cops, there are about 12 that don't live in town. That's hardly "most".)
Most of them have a bad atitiude. (??????? What's proof do you have? If they have a bad attitude, file a complaint. By law complaints about officer demeaner must be investigated. There are not many investigations taking place.)
Most of them think they deserve a raise. (No. Most of them think that Rutherford should pay on balance with the surrounding communities.)
A good number of them don't have a college degree. (Wrong again. A good number have degrees and even Master's degrees which they receive no compensation for. They receive a small stipend of $1500 in their salary for a bachelor's degree. Anything higher than that gets them nothing)
What part of any of these assumptions isn't the truth? (So far, you're assumptions are 100% false)
Tell you what, put a question on the ballot asking if the town should layoff cops and it will win by a landslide. ( I also happen to be confident that if you put it on a referendum for the town to vote on keeping us or getting rid of us you'd find an OVERWHELMING majority in favor of keeping us.)
Before you throw out your next assumption, I'll tell you that I am one of the Rutherford cops and my information is 100% accurate. I grew up in this town, served my community from the age of 16, and proudly continue to do so today.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, sparky
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Re: Consolidate (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, August 01 @ 03:13:22 UTC | | Consolidate the 3 southern most towns. End of story. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, August 01 @ 12:36:19 UTC | | Yes, that's the answer. |
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Re: cops (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, August 07 @ 22:23:23 UTC | | Way to stand by your convictions with courage Anonymous! If you stood by your opinion with your name attached I would have more respect for you..But you HIDE! |
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Re: certification (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, August 01 @ 03:20:55 UTC | | Heres an idea, why not require cops to get continuing education credits and be certified each couple of years if they are going to make these types of salaries. No not those BS classes they take or the videos they have to watch,legitimate courses where if you don't pass,you get no raise and if you don't pass twice,you're fired. WTH barbers,manicurists and real estate and insurance people have to do it in this state,so why not the almighty well compenated cops. Is it because then the politicians won't be able to hire and promote who they want ? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Sunday, August 02 @ 08:02:18 UTC | | even better RUN FIVE MILES!!! THey all fail |
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Re: Run 5 miles (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, August 03 @ 11:28:21 UTC | If you told me I had to run 5 miles to keep my job, I and all of my fellow officers would train to and pass the test. The problem is that you would find something else to ***** about. Your type will always find something wrong with what we do.
Ahh, just bite me. |
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Bravo! (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 12:07:21 UTC | and for starters, they should all have to pass physical agility tests to remain cops
many of the Rutherford cops couldn't run a 50 yd dash if their life depended on it
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Re: Vacation (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 23:49:18 UTC | | I think 4WEEKS is enough! Add in holidays, sick time, and what ever other perks he gets, does he really need almost three more weeks off?? Hell at that point make it a part time job, he will never be there anyway! |
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Re: Police Dept. (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 18:12:01 UTC | Unfortunately this town cannot manage its budget well. There are just too many people in too few productive positions. I would start at the town hall to start eliminating, and then work through each dept (which unfortunately includes the police dept, unless they want to chip in and pay for their benefits, cuts have to be made). Many companies have to make very hard deicisions....our borough cannot be isolated from such decisions. The residents of this town are being taxed enough. What we need now is true leadership to make some creative, and sometimes difficult decisions.
Regarding the civilian police director and vacation...if he took time off when it was not approved, he should pay. And what town attorney reviewed the contract for this person????Is everyone asleep at the wheel at borough hall. How many times do we have to keep learning of how the town screwed up....As the council is wasting their time NOW doing what they should have done the first time around for the Police Director, let's make sure we have everything covered....like sick days.....Remember what happened to this town when those two senior police officers walked off with over $500,000 in total comp...for unsused sick days....Right!!!!! They say "the devil is in the details"...well, from the mistakes we have seen, the devil is all over this town! |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 19:28:19 UTC | | Must be the same person who gave neinstedt farrell and stafford their retirement packages. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 20:12:03 UTC | Great post! I couldn't agree more.
Jolyn |
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Re: Town Budget (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 03:01:19 UTC | Rutherford needs to maximize every dollar, while cutting costs across the board - unfortunately this includes cutting payroll.....everywhere! But how do we justify the taxes we ask of our residents if we cut services? We may need to motivate our town employees to be more productive - in short, do more with less! Our new Borough Administrator should concentrate on more productive efforts, while finding more reductions in operating costs. Business must act in this manner, why not our town.
Gerald Miller |
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Perfectly said! (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 12:12:46 UTC | What Rutherford really needs is a business CEO that makes real evaluation based on the jobs return.
In Rutheford's case probably 50% OF THE MUNICIPAL POSITIONS will be restructured for efficiency
A complete time and motion study needs to be made of the police dept
Rutherford taxpayers are pissing away a lot of money for redundancies...too many upper level cops making way too much$ |
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Re: Is vacation really the issue ? (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 16:46:57 UTC | | Should the Captain really be worried about the Directors vacation ? Or is it just sour grapes ? With the current crisis facing the Police you would think he has some planning to do. If he really wants to be fair and has a legitimate concern not only for the police but also the residents, he should forfeit some of his lucrative vacation allotment to the Director. If he is to really do his job effectively, can he use it all or worse yet be thinking about going on vacation now ! |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 17:50:40 UTC | | is the town of rutherford really doing enough for John Thompson. He gets a police pension + salary and social security benifits as director + medical benifits for him and family + vacation. Come on lets all chip in for some additional days for John Thompson. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 18:52:07 UTC | Yes John Thompson gets a police pension after serving his time in the career that afforded him that. And yes he left with benefits for him and his wife. And yes he was pushed out the door by BMcP so her lacky Neinstedt could become Deputy Chief, a position just created for him to move up to
Chief. Who cares if he pays into SS now as a Dirctor? With his PFRS pension he CAN"T collect what a regular person can and yet he pays what a regular person does into it. Thus SS is benefiting from his new job.
Don't hate him for his new job. Had it not been Rutherford, he would have a job elsewhere as he retired young. Something many would love the opportunity to do. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 20:56:56 UTC | | What did the Police department do when the four officers were fired? Did they hire replacements? How much did overtime cost for the three years? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 21:01:46 UTC | | How many officers did the town have after the four were fired. Was it 43 or did it go below that number? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 02:45:23 UTC | | "An additional five officers fill out the detective bureau" Oh yes and with the 4 that got fired under the watch of good'ol Steve and lackeys, these 5 officers stayed in the detective bureau. So I guess manpower wasn't effected too bad? Do you realize there is a detective Captain who is responsible for a Detective LT, Detective SGT and 3 officers? That is 6 NOT 5 and isn't that a bit too much brass for only 3 officers? Who by the way only work Monday through Friday 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. unless making overtime on the taxpayers dollar. |
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Re: Merli's question ? (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 16:50:44 UTC | | Who is the Captain to question the Directors vacation. Who gets a second bite at the apple after professing their innocence and in the eleventh hour taking a plea. Please give it up already or better yet offer some solutions to the problem. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Saturday, August 01 @ 11:15:59 UTC | | Merli should just keep his mouth shut! He has no credibility even after so many years have passed since he should have been thrown in jail for mail fraud. The ONLY reason he's captain is because his buddies (and co-conspirators) Steve and Tommy took care of him while they raped the taxpayers. He shouldn't be saying anything about anyone else in the police department. He should get out now before he loses his plum position. After all, do they really need two captains? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, August 07 @ 16:55:10 UTC | | Mail fraud? I thought he was just 'ribbing' the Chief at the time with a practical joke. |
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Re: Merli (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, August 07 @ 18:37:10 UTC | | I don't know. Wouldn't you call fraudulently ordering thousands of dollars in items from magazine subscriptions to a set of golf clubs using several names of fellow police officers (chief, captain, lieutenant) a crime? I would. That's what he admitted to doing. Yet, he thinks he should be the chief of police... |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 21:43:29 UTC | | I have an idea don't give the director any vacation days and bring back neinstedt for $182000.00. Is that a good idea Captian? |
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Re: Cutting police officers (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 15:40:31 UTC | I am not in favor of laying off police officers, particularly if every other possibility has not been exhaustively explored. Cutting the jobs of our cops is serious and I would feel more comfortable with it if I believed that all borough expenditures, staff salaries, etc of every department had been dissected and thoroughly analyzed and that all other possible cuts were made first. I think that Genovesi's statement that "the size of each department must be based on the residents' ability to pay" is absurd and asinine. Does that mean that people in poorer communities must make due with less cops, and fewer services because of their income level? This country is not based on that kind of thinking and thank God it's not! Can you imagine the mayhem and chaos in our cities and other nearby communities (which would then seep into our own neighborhoods) if Genovesi's ideas were reality? I agree that these are tough times, economically and otherwise, but given that, there is no reason to think that crime will decrease, in fact, statistics show that the opposite is true in times like this. I think it 's especially important to keep our eye on the ball now, so lamenting how many vacation days are allotted to the police director (and apparently originally omitted in error) should not really be the hot topic. However, here's some food for thought: while we can't force people to retire, it would be nice if some of the extremely well-paid older guys who have served our borough for a long time, would consider saying adios and enjoying those fabulous retirement packages awaiting them and at the same time providing some financial breathing room for our police department. Now, I'm not talking about EVERYBODY but there are a couple who have definitely worn out their welcome. A cop I know very well from a nearby town always says, "If it's not fun anymore then it's time to go!" I totally agree with that. If your grumpiness and poor attitude are negatively affecting your job and the people you are paid to serve as well as your co-workers, then step aside, guys, and let those who are enthusiastic, motivated, productive, compassionate and POLITE take the reins. We really have a great town and I hope we can all pull together and keep it that way.
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 21:41:35 UTC | | Which cop from the neighboring town could you be quoting????? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 22:32:20 UTC | | Great point about elligible officers retiring on their own. But do you really think the town will hire to replace them? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 04:46:44 UTC | At this point in time, it doesn't really matter if they are replaced or not, because frankly they won't be missed. If someone's not productive (and this is true anywhere) and just taking up space, they're really just names on a roster collecting a big paycheck. I don't think it's ever a good idea to decrease the number of police officers but if you have to, I think it makes more sense fiscally - and for the benefit of the community in other ways - if you take it from the top. And let me say again, I am referring to just a few with bad attitudes and who, it seems to me, have forgotten what it means to be a public servant.
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 19:24:40 UTC | | Aren't you related to farrell and garner? |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Friday, July 31 @ 20:39:59 UTC | Sean and Mike are my nephews by marriage to my former husband. Not sure why you asked this since my connections to police officers are certainly no secret. Anyone who knows me since my days as a newspaper editor know that my views and opinions are well-thought-out and are my own, not dictated by who I'm related to, who I live with or by anyone at all.
I am and have always been a strong and vocal supporter of GOOD cops. (And not just ones with Irish last names!) I detest BAD cops and the negative effects thay have on their colleagues and community. Bad cops - including those with bad attitudes - let down the people that are supposed to be serving and they give our dedicated, hard-working police officers a bad name.
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 20:59:59 UTC | Hey Maura
The ordinance spelled out that TF gets only 50 percent of his sick pay because he did not have 30 years with the boro but he got paid for 75 percent. I guess you didn't read that ordinance. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 21:12:00 UTC | | Is this the same Maura who objects to extra vacation days for the director but justifies Stafford getting $8000 for three months of benefits after he resigned. Correct resigned not retired. What about the $26000 for unused sick days and vacation days without a vote from the council. |
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Re: Police Director vacation (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Thursday, July 30 @ 21:14:11 UTC | | If he wants more vacation time let him look for another job. Does he think he's irreplaceable in this economy? |
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Re: We are asked to do more with less. (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Monday, August 03 @ 22:57:44 UTC | Why should it be any different for the PD. Unfortunately, they have done this to themselves by continually only thinking about themselves and negotiating bigger and better deals on the backs of the tax payers. What’s even worse is the fact that this has gone unchecked by the very same politicians that the town’s people elected. It was only a matter of time before all this would come crashing down.
I am not against the work they do, but it is time to realize that we can not afford them anymore. They have successfully priced themselves out of a job.
Cut the budget then work within the budget.
If we need help, reach out to the Sheriff's Dept, County PD or State PD. We already pay taxes to keep them employed too.
Let's get it together and make our votes count. |
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Re: (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 04 @ 00:57:24 UTC | Go for it!!
See how much cooperation you'll get from those other departments you mentioned.
The State refuses to add more areas for their patrol. The County Sheriff is not allowed to do patrol functions (they have different training and responsibilities) and the County PD is too busy hasselling the motorists on the highways.
They'll never replace the town cops for the above reasons and one more big one...HOME RULE.
So...good luck with that. |
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Re: It suck for all. (Score: 0) by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 05 @ 00:26:41 UTC | Your reply sums up why we are wasting our money. Unfortunately, you do not even see it.
Hope you too pay the taxes we do.
The good news is that I am not the only one that will go for it, more and more people who are fed up will go for it too and at some point, it will make a difference and the corruption will start to lessen.
A small example of this was the last mayoral election. I believe it will continue.
Best of luck and keep paying those taxes.
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